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In this episode, Tiffani and Kenjus chop it up with Dr. Amber McZeal—scholar, artist, and sacred activist—to explore the expansive terrain of decolonizing the psyche, ancestral memory, and the spiritual labor of refusing coloniality. From their first encounters with Amber’s transformative work to the unexpected synchronicities that led to this moment, the conversation unfolds as a meditation on relationality, refusal, and reverence.

Amber traces her path from Lafayette, Louisiana, to the liberatory depths of sound healing, vibrational medicine, and depth psychology, illuminating how music, dreams, and ancestral guidance have shaped her scholarship and praxis. She breaks down the necessity of decolonial death rituals, the wisdom of pruning what no longer serves, and the role of sacred scholarship in expanding our psychic and spiritual capacities beyond colonial constraints.

Together, they wrestle with the tension between holding onto inherited frameworks of harm and making space for new, liberatory ways of being. They confront the limits of racial essentialism, the traps of self-righteousness in liberation spaces, and the importance of humility in the work of decolonization. Amber reminds us that refusal is not just about negation—it is a generative, creative force that reconnects us to the wisdom of our ancestors and the possibility of new worlds.

The episode closes with Amber offering a powerful song—a sacred invocation of resilience, rebirth, and the eternal cycle of creation.

Listen as they delve into the necessity of spiritual and intellectual decolonization, the balance between grief and creation, and the radical work of expanding our consciousness in service of collective liberation.

Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org
Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson
Music By: Redtone Records
Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records
Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures

Note: All episodes this season explore themes of death, transition, and capture, with an emphasis on spiritual and ancestral grounding.


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